De Donkere Kamer Podcast

De Donkere Kamer is the podcast for photographers who want to grow, behind the camera and in their business. Twice a week, host and photographer Kaat Celis shares a new episode: one solo conversation with her own reflections on creativity and craft, and one in-depth interview with respected names in international photography, including Anton Corbijn, Christopher Anderson, David Campany, and Harry Gruyaert. Together, these conversations explore what it takes to keep growing as a photographer, creatively and in business. New episodes every week.

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  • An interview with Joumana El Zei Khoury, director of World Press Photo Foundation.
    • 08/09/2026

    An interview with Joumana El Zei Khoury, director of World Press Photo Foundation.

    Joumana El Zein Khoury has spent her career building bridges between culture under pressure and the people who need to see it. Born in Beirut in 1975 and now based in the Netherlands, she previously led the Prince Claus Fund and worked with the Arab Image Foundation in Beirut before becoming executive director of the World Press Photo Foundation in 2021, right in the middle of the pandemic.

    In this episode, Joumana talks about:

    • Why she calls herself a "democratic dictator," and how she led World Press Photo through a full organizational transition

    • Why the foundation introduced selection criteria requiring at least one local and one female or non-binary winner per region, and what actually changed as a result

    • How World Press Photo deals with AI-generated and AI-edited images in a photojournalism contest, and where it draws the line

    • Why she believes culture is as basic a human need as food or shelter, and what that means for displaced and refugee communities

    • What it's like to look at thousands of the world's most difficult images every year, and how she finds her own balance

    • Why the World Press Photo archive, turning 70 next year, might be her biggest personal project yet

    This episode is a look inside one of the most influential organizations in photojournalism, and the woman rethinking whose stories get told, and how. You can find more of World Press Photo's work, exhibitions and archive at worldpressphoto.org.

    This episode of De Donkere Kamer podcast is proudly supported by Cameranu, specialist in cameras, lenses and photography gear.

  • Documentary Photography and the Impact of Climate Change: A Conversation with Gael Turine
    • 29/08/2025

    Documentary Photography and the Impact of Climate Change: A Conversation with Gael Turine

    My guest today is Belgian documentary photographer and photojournalist Gaël Turine. Raised in a family of documentary filmmakers, he found his calling early: a childhood year spent on a small island in the Indian Ocean planted a lifelong need to travel, observe, and tell stories through images. Decades later, that same instinct led him to turn his camera on his own country, walking the flooded river valleys of Wallonia for two years to document the long, slow aftermath of a climate disaster most of the world had already stopped watching.

    We talk about why he chose black and white panoramic landscapes over the human portraits he's known for, what it means to fund and shape a personal project from scratch, the ephemeral but intense encounters he has with the people he photographs, and why he still doesn't fully trust short-form video and algorithms as a home for serious documentary work. We also get into his television work for Arte, his dream project on cooperatives around the world, and the farmhouse in the Ardennes he escapes to when the work gets too heavy.

    This episode is proudly supported by Cameranu, my partner for camera gear in Belgium and the Netherlands. It's where I send the photographers I work with when they're looking for honest advice and equipment that can actually keep up with serious work. As a listener of this show, you get 10% off with code [CODE].

    In this episode you'll learn:

    • Why Gaël chose black-and-white panoramic landscapes instead of portraits to document the Wallonia floods

    • How he secured government funding for a two-year personal project, and what he offered in return

    • What "activism through documentary" looks like when the story is about your own country

    • Why he still doesn't trust algorithms and short-form video as a home for serious photojournalism

    • How his farmhouse in the Ardennes shapes both his creative process and his ability to disconnect

    About the guest:
    Gaël Turine is a Belgian documentary photographer and photojournalist based in Brussels. Raised by two documentary-making parents, he has spent 25 years covering stories for international magazines, teaches documentary journalism at the Université libre de Bruxelles, and produces documentaries for Arte. His long-term project on the Wallonia floods, Mémoire des Rivières, was exhibited at the Musée de la Photographie in Charleroi.